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m1mike
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  7:44:36 PM  Show Profile Send m1mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have had many advances in weapons since World War 2. Do you think any of the weapons from World War 2 could hold up against its modern competition ???

WarBaby
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  7:53:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit WarBaby's Homepage Send WarBaby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many WW2 era weapons would still be more than adequate today. For clearing a room, I think a PPSh-41 would still do nicely.

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Cleitus
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  7:57:53 PM  Show Profile Send Cleitus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The carbine is still in use in many places plus of coarse by civilians a cross the globe. And I think I would be very secure with my Garand If I had to use it for "important " things.The 7 shot 45 is also plenty good for civilian self defense.Maybe Still the best.
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WarBaby
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  8:09:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit WarBaby's Homepage Send WarBaby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dont forget the Ma Deuce. Still going strong in the sandbox today!

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tsellati
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  8:46:47 PM  Show Profile Send tsellati a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WarBaby

Dont forget the Ma Deuce. Still going strong in the sandbox today!

WarBaby



Please forgive my ignorance, but, what is a "Ma Deuce"?

Uneducated minds want to know .

Tim
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SMG1
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  8:53:42 PM  Show Profile Send SMG1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
.50 Cal Browning Machine Gun Tim. the British .303 is still in use in some parts of the world albeit a bolt action it would still stand up as a sniper rifle against anything else with a modern scope on top of it or not same said for the 1903 Spgfield.
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MrJitters
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  9:06:01 PM  Show Profile Send MrJitters a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The M1911 .45 ACP.

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WarBaby
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  9:38:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit WarBaby's Homepage Send WarBaby a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tim,

M2 .50 Browning MG.

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Cleitus
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  10:38:21 PM  Show Profile Send Cleitus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I was in Iraq or Afghanistan now, I would want the Colt 1911! Period!
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Milsurp Collector
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  11:55:31 AM  Show Profile Send Milsurp Collector a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The grandfather of all modern assault rifles, the StG44




The M3 machine gun still being used in over 30 countries is a rechambered version of the WWII MG42

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Deputy
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USA
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  12:32:35 PM  Show Profile Send Deputy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd feel a lot more secure carrying an M1 Garand or Carbine over any of the varmit caliber guns that are popular today


Edited by - Deputy on 04/15/2008 12:32:49 PM
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m1mike
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  7:36:07 PM  Show Profile Send m1mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deputy

I'd feel a lot more secure carrying an M1 Garand or Carbine over any of the varmit caliber guns that are popular today




+1.......

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jimb16
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  10:30:33 PM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Ma Deuce, the 1911a1 and the 191A4 are all still in service around the world. I wouldn't feel particularly underarmed with any of them.

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Larry D.
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  07:40:40 AM  Show Profile Send Larry D. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
C'mon guys.
No love for the venerable Thompson?
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Deputy
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  09:28:28 AM  Show Profile Send Deputy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Larry D.

C'mon guys.
No love for the venerable Thompson?



Add that to the list I'd feel comfortable with. Plus the M3 Greasegun. But they are really close-in weapons. Good for urban combat.


Edited by - Deputy on 04/16/2008 10:20:20 AM
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Larry D.
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  09:37:42 AM  Show Profile Send Larry D. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Deputy

quote:
Originally posted by Larry D.

C'mon guys.
No love for the venerable Thompson?



Add that to the list I'd feel comfortable with. P;lus the M3 Greasegun. But they are really close-in weapons. Good for urban combat.





Amen brother!
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tjl
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  7:59:19 PM  Show Profile Send tjl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll take a BAR
T
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tjl
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  7:59:55 PM  Show Profile Send tjl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll take a BAR
T
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Cleitus
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  10:51:03 PM  Show Profile Send Cleitus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CLose in weapon is the Thompson. Not a favored weapon in Korean War. Another subgun not thought highly of was the Soviet sub gun. And I read in this latest book on the life of Mao that his bodyguards prefered the 30 carbine over the Soviet burp gun! Mao didnt like that!But Mao didnt like much of anything) or anyone(except a lot of females) except his mentor Uncle Joe!
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Deputy
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Posted - 04/17/2008 :  07:40:05 AM  Show Profile Send Deputy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cleitus

CLose in weapon is the Thompson. Not a favored weapon in Korean War. Another subgun not thought highly of was the Soviet sub gun. And I read in this latest book on the life of Mao that his bodyguards prefered the 30 carbine over the Soviet burp gun! Mao didnt like that!But Mao didnt like much of anything) or anyone(except a lot of females) except his mentor Uncle Joe!


Actually, the Thompson saw very little use by US troops in the Korean War. Most of them were used by ROK troops. The Soviet subgun was a favorite of the German Army during WW2 for house-to-house fighting.
Very controllable in full auto fire and large magazine capacity.


Edited by - Deputy on 04/22/2008 10:13:40 AM
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Templar
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Posted - 04/22/2008 :  08:19:43 AM  Show Profile Send Templar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Needs a new handguard design/material, steel recoil spring tube inside the buttstock, and a way to attach a modern optic, but.....





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AzTrooper
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Posted - 04/22/2008 :  3:20:15 PM  Show Profile Send AzTrooper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
+1 for the Garand and the BAR!
John
quote:
Originally posted by m1mike

We have had many advances in weapons since World War 2. Do you think any of the weapons from World War 2 could hold up against its modern competition ???



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jjadkins1
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Posted - 05/08/2008 :  3:47:21 PM  Show Profile Send jjadkins1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool video
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m1mike
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2008 :  7:37:31 PM  Show Profile Send m1mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would take a M2 Carbine before a AR-15 any day......

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Deputy
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USA
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Posted - 05/08/2008 :  9:35:05 PM  Show Profile Send Deputy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m1mike

I would take a M2 Carbine before a AR-15 any day......





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jeeperbob
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  7:09:10 PM  Show Profile Send jeeperbob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Put me in the weeds with a scoped garand with lots of ammo and I'll reach out and "touch somebody". Don't forget according to the geneva conventions, ma deuce is not an anti personnel weapon.
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