M1CarbineForum
M1CarbineForum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Active Polls | Members | Private Messages | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Contractor Specific Discussion
 National Postal Meter
 Need NPM help,!
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Previous Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 2

always learning
Junior Member



USA
73 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  09:42:43 AM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The handguard you mention with the cursive script and then an U is probably one of the Pedersen Bros. for Underwood. Given the current state of your carbine I wouldn't bother trying to restore it either. It is simply cost prohibitive to do so and you want really have that much more value in the carbine than where it is right now. It does have a nice overall look to it considering some of the carbines I see on Armslist and some of the other sites too.
Go to Top of Page

Google AdSense

USA
Mountain View


Jackp
Veteran Member



USA
1064 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  5:02:10 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think your slide is Winchester too. The "N" on the arm is probably an inspector's stamp. You will often see the inspector's stamp on the bridge between the two guide tabs too. Unfortunately none of your Winchester parts were listed as transferred to NPM. Post a picture of it as well when you get a chance.

Just so you know why I am so curious about your stock, it's because it has the boxy shape typical of Winchester. Often the little "W" stamped inside the sling well is nearly invisible, especially if the stock has been sanded, which I think yours has. That might also explain the lack of an ordinance stamp (cartouche). There may also be a "W" stamped on the inside bridge between the receiver area and the gas cylinder area. Another clue is that under the butt plate there will be three holes, one for the butt plate screw and two others that I believe were tooling holes used to hold the stock blank in the profiler during manufacture. The "P" on the grip is an Army Ordinance rebuild proof mark, not often found on non-USGI stocks.

Also, are there any markings on the recoil plate? It looks like something is stamped on it from one of the Armslist pictures you posted. You should add it and the butt plate to your spread sheet. More pictures!

As you can see, this can become quite an interesting who-done-it? project for some of us OCD types. I'm still learning things about my carbines that I've had for years.

JackP

Edited by - Jackp on 12/28/2015 5:06:33 PM
Go to Top of Page

always learning
Junior Member



USA
73 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  5:57:20 PM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is the slide marked W on the inside bottom or outside bottom? That could tell us potentially who made it. Either way, it's an E series slide of some kind judging by the pictures you have posted.
Go to Top of Page

bigfish85
Starting Member



15 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  6:18:54 PM  Show Profile Send bigfish85 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, I've taken some pictures that I'm hoping you guys can see in my Photobucket account.

You must be logged in to see this link.


As for the questions (most should be answered by the pics):

Slide - the "W" is on the inside of the well

Stock - the "P" is on the grip. Nothing else I can see on the inside, and I didn't take any pics. The sling well shows "TRIMBLE" and "TN". Your refinish idea kind of makes sense, as I don't think either of those are original. Nothing on the recoil plate. Only one hole under it. Or maybe a repro like I first thought.

Eh...gotta learn somehow. Turns out my learning curve has been steep...and expensive.

I'll drag it to a gunshow and see if I can trade it plus a few hundred bucks and get a good one...who knows. Haha.

Go to Top of Page

Jackp
Veteran Member



USA
1064 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  7:31:02 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the stock's not Winchester. "Trimble TN" is a correct maker for NPM but I see what you mean about it not looking original. Maybe someone else will jump in and give an opinion.

The slide is definitely Winchester.

Don't despair. You still have a decent USGI carbine.

JackP
Go to Top of Page

bigfish85
Starting Member



15 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2015 :  9:06:30 PM  Show Profile Send bigfish85 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh I'm generally ok with it. Mostly GI. I'll shoot it, enjoy it and continue to learn. At some point I'll part ways with it when a better deal presents itself.

You guys are great by the way. Very much appreciated
Go to Top of Page

shadycon
Veteran Member



USA
1379 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2015 :  07:37:59 AM  Show Profile Send shadycon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it hasn't been said yet; most carbines have been thru at least one rebuild and thus parts being replaced with what is available. The chances of finding an original, untouched carbine are not good. Most on the market advertised as original are rebuilt with the somewhat correct parts and fake parts to fool someone who doesn't know what to look for. Keep your NPM as you now know what you have.

M1's-R-FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
TSMG's-R-MORE-FUN!!!!!
ENJOY LIFE & HAVE FUN!!
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Previous Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
M1CarbineForum © 2007-2017 M1CarbineForum Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
RSS Feed 1 RSS Feed 2
Powered by ForumCo 2000-2008
TOS - AUP - URA - Privacy Policy