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Jackp
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Posted - 06/12/2018 :  4:53:31 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I couldn’t pass it up. Gen II Universal for only $150. LGS had it in the back with a broken bolt. Guess what? I have an extra Inland bolt! It needed a USGI hammer to go with that bolt. Guess what? I had an extra Rockola hammer! The bore was shiny but it swallowed my ME gage (4 or 5 maybe), however it was only $150!!! LGS said they couldn’t find a bolt for it. Too bad LGS doesn’t read this forum. They didn’t know a USGI bolt would work. My bolt barely closed on a “GO” gage. What luck! Anyway, a little Flax seed oil on the stock and Hoppe’s on the metal and I’m in business. Anyone want a worn out Gen II hammer and a broken Universal bolt? The only bad news is that there is a Stage II fire ban here due to the lack of rain so no shooting unless you’re at an authorized range (which is 40 miles away) so I won’t be able to fire any live rounds out of it until the monsoons start. Oh well, I can wait. And please forgive me.





JackP

Edited by - Jackp on 06/12/2018 4:54:09 PM

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BEYU
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Posted - 06/12/2018 :  7:13:31 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NICE!

Hey — the hand guard doesn't match...just grousing!

This is living proof a sharp eye counts for everything, including at the range.

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Benj. Franklin
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boomer656
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USA
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Posted - 06/12/2018 :  9:52:36 PM  Show Profile Send boomer656 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice!
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LMTmonoMan
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Posted - 06/12/2018 :  11:00:31 PM  Show Profile Send LMTmonoMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool score for sure brother, congratulations. Never seizes to amaze me the stuff gun store owners are unaware of about firearms they're selling. Some of the best deals are found this way. Pays to be a educated buyer like Jack:)

You did an awesome job refinishing the stock. At first I didn't believe it was the same one, but then compared marks b/t the two. I Look forward to hearing how the barrel/rifle shoots as well once you can shoot it.
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americanboy
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USA
363 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2018 :  08:12:00 AM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing at all wrong with having a "shooter" around that you can lose or throw away and it won't make you cry. I have a couple of GI compatible commercial carbines stashed in handy closets and shoot them often to make sure they shoot. Good snag.
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2018 :  5:00:51 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just rubbed on some flax seed oil. I might try to sand out the road rash on the fore stock. Hey BEYU, maybe I'll try to darken the hand guard a little so it will match better. Also, there's still a little rust on the barrel band. Maybe I'll see if I can clean it off and touch it up with a little cold blue. I have an extra GI barrel band screws that I can use to replace the one one the band in the picture.

JackP
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Tuna
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Posted - 06/13/2018 :  6:47:45 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jack, Is the bolt pictured has the right hand lug of the bolt sheared/broken off?
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2018 :  7:04:28 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tuna, yes the first picture is what I dumped out of the bag the gun came in. It included the broken bolt, missing the right lug and all the internal parts, along with two sets of recoil springs, an unfired, primed case and what might be a a broken case with the end missing. I found nothing to explain the broken case. The LGS owner said, "It came that way". Here's a closeup of the broken bolt. At first I thought it was USGI, but upon closer inspection I concluded it was Universal (too soft).


JackP
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americanboy
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USA
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Posted - 06/15/2018 :  11:03:14 AM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jack...if you install a spare GI hand guard on that Universal stock, you will have a stock that mimics a GI high-wood.

Edited by - americanboy on 06/15/2018 11:05:53 AM
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 06/15/2018 :  12:22:23 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately a GI hand guard will not fit on a Gen II Universal without carving out a lot of the interior. Square barrel and slide stick up into the hand guard area.

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Tuna
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Posted - 06/15/2018 :  1:55:56 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That bolt sheared off at it's weakest point just like a USGI bolt. I would suggest a good inspection of both of the recesses for the locking lugs to be sure there is no damage there that caused the bolt to shear or damage caused by the bolt letting go.
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Jackp
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Posted - 06/15/2018 :  3:50:24 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tuna, I did carefully check the lug locking areas and found no damage or wear at all. The right lug on the bolt was gone so I couldn't check it. The left lug looked okay. The one thing I was concerned about was why there was a broken case in the bag with the loose parts. I checked the chamber for damage, all was okay. Maybe when the bolt broke, the fired case was stuck in the chamber and was broken during removal. Nice clean break right at the base. I've fired a few empty primed empty cases to check for potential out-of-battery problems but everything is working as designed. I could not make it fire out-of-battery. Like I said, head space with the Inland bolt is good. Judging from the wear on the back of the bolt and hammer face and also on the piston stop, this carbine has fired a lot of rounds. None of my GI carbines were worn this much. Soft metal? Like I said, ME was 4 or 5. I nearly lost my gauge down the barrel. But as you know that doesn't necessarily mean that the barrel is worn out. We'll see when I get a chance to shoot it for reals.

JackP
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Tuna
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Posted - 06/16/2018 :  6:23:47 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think your right about the soft steel Jack. The USGI carbines were made to take a beating and keep on going. The commercial ones just are not up to, for lack of a better word, standard of the USGI carbines. Hey the USGI carbines,they may be old but they were made to last. Come to think of it like many of us on these forums. Let us know how you make out shooting it.
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 06/23/2018 :  2:18:16 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well BEYU, you shamed me into fixing the color mismatch between the stock and the hand guard. Also, I did sand off the road rash. I need to apply a few more coats of oil and it will have a nice satin sheen, although it doesn't look bad with the matte finish it has now. It's amazing what you can do with a little brown shoe polish and some flax oil.





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BEYU
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USA
307 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2018 :  12:54:54 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jackp

Well BEYU, you shamed me into fixing the color mismatch between the stock and the hand guard. Also, I did sand off the road rash. I need to apply a few more coats of oil and it will have a nice satin sheen, although it doesn't look bad with the matte finish it has now. It's amazing what you can do with a little brown shoe polish and some flax oil.




You made me feel REAL bad about the shaming. (Just kidding)

But — we can all see what GOOD it did. Nice job!

This is my Reason for Living — Seeking out ugliness wherever it rears its (ugly) head, and stamping it out. LOL

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Benj. Franklin
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