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gmoneyweaver
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USA
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Posted - 05/20/2018 :  9:05:49 PM  Show Profile Send gmoneyweaver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I inherited this M1 and looking to understand what I have. I have done some research but what I have figured out from the research is that there is a lot to these guns.

Here is what I have 23567XX Underwood (T) Orlando CMP

Condition seems good but dusty. It's my first M1 and want to know the value, it it work cleaning up and shooting, keeping it the way it is. Will I devalue it if I clean it and shoot it. I am more of a shooter than a collector but I really do like this M1 Carbine












Edited by - gmoneyweaver on 05/21/2018 11:30:26 PM

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Tuna
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Posted - 05/21/2018 :  8:34:29 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The photos are not clear at all.
It is hard to say what is right and what is not right with your carbine.
With the adjustable rear sight it seems it may have been through the typical rebuild.
But it does have some parts that are early ones if real and not reproductions.
But better pictures would help a lot. And welcome to the forums with your Underwood carbine.
The barrel is dated 9-43 and that is about right for the serial number on your receiver.
To give you an idea of value we do need better photos.

Edited by - Tuna on 05/21/2018 8:38:13 PM
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 05/21/2018 :  9:24:31 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum from New Mexico!

The "T" under the serial number indicates that the receiver was made for Underwood by Intertype Corporation. The front sight looks original.
The barrel band may be original too but better pictures are needed to be sure.
Also, try to clean off the varnish before taking more pics. The varnish is hiding details that help to identify things.
Also, the sling is hiding things too. A good picture of the rear sight staking would be helpful. Also one of the sling well.
Your carbine would have originally had a flat bolt. The pic looks like a round bolt.

Like Tuna said, it's probably a rebuild. Cleaning and shooting it will not affect the value.

Congratulations on your new acquisition!

JackP

Edited by - Jackp on 05/21/2018 9:27:00 PM
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gmoneyweaver
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USA
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Posted - 05/21/2018 :  11:28:06 PM  Show Profile Send gmoneyweaver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info guys. I am still trying to figure out how to post images on this site. The bolt is round. I will try to get better pictures
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cali201
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2018 :  05:24:50 AM  Show Profile Send cali201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Barrel appears to have had a type 3 barrel band (with bayo lug) on it as it is discolored.
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HB of CJ
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2018 :  3:03:04 PM  Show Profile Send HB of CJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would be fun and easy to swap out the safety and mag catch to late date items. I do not know what the grease stains on the barrel mean.

If you can be sure to have a good gunsmith go through your new toy. It is an old military platform. If it passes, shoot the gun. Fun.
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jimb16
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USA
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Posted - 05/23/2018 :  10:20:27 PM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cali, I'm not sure that the marking on the barrel is from a T3 band. To me, it looks like someone left a canvas muzzle cover on it and some rust or corrosion may have occurred. Its hard to tell. The foreend of the stock doesn't appear to have had a T2 or T3 band on it. Better photos would help.

OGCA Lifer,NRA Life member, son of a 325th GIR Glider Rider
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gmoneyweaver
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USA
4 Posts

Posted - 05/23/2018 :  10:43:39 PM  Show Profile Send gmoneyweaver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More Pics

Stock has "J" on it and a crest that looks like 2 bombs

















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Jackp
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USA
1061 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2018 :  11:41:35 AM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It looks to me like there is some kind of varnish residue on the barrel. It really shows up at the muzzle. Maybe it's rust but maybe not. Let's see if it cleans up. The Type 1 barrel band looks legit (except for the little red washer). That adds value. Also, the rear sight staking will tell a lot. Still need more close up pics of the dovetail area of the receiver. Thanks for sharing!

JackP
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gmoneyweaver
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USA
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Posted - 05/24/2018 :  10:54:57 PM  Show Profile Send gmoneyweaver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
its just varnish or something. I cleaned it off metal parts, which I fully disassembled and cleaned. Looks much better. I got to figure out what to clean the stock with. I want to get rid of the grim but not the originality. I have one original magazine but want a few more. What is my best option? Ebay?
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Jackp
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USA
1061 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2018 :  11:20:15 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Clean your stock with Murphey's Oil Soap and a soft bristle brush. Afterwards, hand rub with flax seed oil, several times. I suggest you stick with USGI mags. Ebay's a good source.

JackP
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