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RichardM1
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/01/2018 :  03:39:00 AM  Show Profile Send RichardM1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After a few years competing in the 30M1 competition at my gunclub, and using the club Carbine's wich are pretty worn out. I bought my own Rockola M1 two weeks ago.

It shoots great, looks brand new, but i stil have some questions about it. I will first search thus forum before asking them

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Tuna
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Posted - 05/01/2018 :  9:08:10 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum. Lots of great information here.
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COSteve
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USA
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Posted - 05/02/2018 :  10:05:16 AM  Show Profile Send COSteve a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RichardM1

I bought my own Rockola M1 two weeks ago.

It shoots great, looks brand new, but i stil have some questions about it. I will first search thus forum before asking them


Welcome from Colorado.

It likely is brand new. James River Armory (JRA) makes a 'Rock-ola' M1 Carbine and sells it through Classic Firearms (WRJ Holdings LLC), however, it has nothing to do with the original Rock-ola Juke Box Company made GI M1 Carbines made in WWII.

JRA likely bought the rights to the name 'Rock-ola' much like Inland Manufacturing, Springfield Armory, and Henry Repeating Arms did. None of them have any ties to the original companies. So, like the Inland, Fulton Armory, and Auto Ordnance M1 Carbines, it is likely a clone and not a GI carbine.

I'd contact JRA with the s/n and find out when it was made, etc. A link to their web page is: "You must be logged in to see this link.".

That said, while I don't know much about the history or quality of their M1 Carbines, while they have some QA problems with their $1,500 M14s, they are considered good examples and worth the money.

Don't get me wrong, the current flock of clones aren't bad examples. While I've had a '43 NPM GI version for over 40 yrs, it's in such pristine shape that I've only put a couple hundred rds through it in all that time.

After borrowing carbines to shoot, in 2012 I finally broke down to buy a 'shooter'. Finding only worn out GI versions in my price range, I took a chance and got a NIB AO carbine and have been extremely happy with it.

Now, some 5K rds later I can tell you that it was a great purchase as my AO has been both trouble free and significantly more accurate with my handloads than my GI carbine. In addition, the Korean GI M1 Carbine mags sold by AIM Surplus have been very reliable as well.

GI NPM on top, AO Clone on bottom:



Steve

“Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.” - Confucius

Edited by - COSteve on 05/02/2018 10:16:01 AM
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RichardM1
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/03/2018 :  12:38:39 AM  Show Profile Send RichardM1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info,

@Steve it ain't that new, from the serial number i can find it's made in 1943, and it's probably send to the Netherland in 1963 on some sort of weapon program (almost 85.000)There's a stamp on the barrel 1_64 when it arived at the dutch arsenal?.
It can be used by the military or police, but it looks it hasn't been used much.

I took it appart and also found some inland parts (triggerhousing) Receiver and barrel are Rockola.
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COSteve
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USA
96 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2018 :  10:32:45 AM  Show Profile Send COSteve a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool! A real Rock-ola then.

Steve

“Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.” - Confucius
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RichardM1
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/14/2018 :  03:15:10 AM  Show Profile Send RichardM1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just have one more noob question, trying to order some frontsight tools from Matrix, but what's the difference between universal en USGI? I can;t find any goor explantion on the web. Only Universal post war, and USGI ww2?
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Jackp
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USA
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Posted - 05/14/2018 :  11:41:01 AM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Barrel diameter. USGI sights won't fit on Universal. Therefore tool is different.

JackP

Edited by - Jackp on 05/14/2018 11:41:40 AM
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Tuna
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Posted - 05/14/2018 :  6:59:56 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Universal is a commercial copy of the USGI carbine. They used their own front sight as Jack said and they are not interchangeable with a USGI front sight so the tools are different. You would need a tool to help remove the sight and one to reinstall it. If worse came to worse you can use a piece of heavy wood to drive the sight off and then a deep well socket to reinstall it. But the correct tools make things so much easier. Remember to drive the sight pin out from the left side too the right as you look down the barrel. When you reinstall the front sight put some oil or grease on the front of the barrel to help the sight slide on with scratching the barrel. Then once it is on and the pin is in, take the tool and tap it a little bit to drive the sight down against the pin to help lock the whole thing in place.
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RichardM1
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Netherlands
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Posted - 05/15/2018 :  06:52:09 AM  Show Profile Send RichardM1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the info, ordered a tool set from matrix for a ISGI version.
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