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Satanta
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USA
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Posted - 12/07/2017 :  8:36:57 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello again. I so love my M1 carbines. But since I don't reload, the expense can add up.
I really want a carbine to plink with and enjoy the fun plus the save.
I'm looking at a Irma Iver Johnson.
Seems to be the basic import in good condition plus 4.
All markings seem correct. Made in W Germany on the right side of receiver. Barrel is marked Iver Johnson Arms Jacksonville AK.
Owl stamp etc...
Just asking if they are worth the purchase at $375?
Rear adjustable sights are there. I hear they are expensive to find and replace.
Serial # is mid 00 four digit which probably does not mean anything.
Just asking if anyone has one, or had one and said goodbye.
Parts available, etc..?
I Google till blind, and then come to the pro's.
It seems worthy, but would like more input.
I hate the magazine look. One said he took an empty GI mag. Fitted it to look proper.
That would be way cool, but my issue is parts and performance.
I welcome any replies. Thanks...

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americanboy
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363 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  07:38:17 AM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Irma is probably a gun that belongs in a collection and maybe as a casual shooter...not an everyday plinker. Some enthusiast have held their noses and opted for a Citadel in 22LR or 9MM...and even 22WMR. The Citadel may be about as close/closer to a real USGI feeling carbine as the Irma and your conscience won't be bothered when you have to throw it away.
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Satanta
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USA
177 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  09:47:15 AM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Surprised to hear that. Are we talking about the same Irma? I would think the collector rifle would be the early ones made back in 1945 and so. This one was made in 1986 give or take a year. Made in Germany for Iver Johnson Arms as an import is my understanding. You must be logged in to see this link.
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jimb16
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USA
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Posted - 12/08/2017 :  11:29:40 AM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, its Erma not Irma. And I believe they also had an American production facility somewhere in the midwest.

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Tuna
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Posted - 12/08/2017 :  12:47:26 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Erma carbines were imported about 1966 into 1997. Later IJ took up the importing and sales of them. Great reliable .22's BUT they have been out of production for quite awhile now and the cost of used parts are jumping up in price IF you can find them. There are no new parts around. Value new in the box according to the Blue book is $365. If it's the later version the EGM-1 then it's $260 with a five shot magazine. The last time if I remember right I saw a magazine for sale was $75 for it.
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Satanta
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USA
177 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2017 :  6:29:01 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks all, and sorry about my spelling. Yep, parts available and price is a concern.
I like the Citadel for looks, but hear some worrisome negatives also. Plus I don't care for the plastic sights.
Wood stock is extra of course also.
The Erma as far as I can tell has metal sights. The stock and hand guard are wood.
It's a toss up. It needs a few days of sleep over on it. Pretty sure I could get it at $300.
If Tuna says they were reliable, then I do feel a little better. Ha - don't worry Tuna, not holding you to that.
If nothing else, I might get my money back on parts alone. 3 years later. (so grinning)
Any input on the Citadel would be good also.
I really would love to have a great plinker M1 carbine style. Something to go nuts with after I have spent my bi-weekly $$ amount allowed with the real deal.
Some say to move on and get into the M1 Garand, or M-14. I agree, but that would be at least one more addiction that I can't afford.
The M1 carbine has rocked my boat since childhood. I have blinders to just about everything except the Springfield trap-door carbine. Thanks again.


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