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Satanta
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USA
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  9:27:17 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Picked up a potbelly FAT 69 for a song and dance.
I know the value of this stock is not worth spending on.
But I would like to clean it up a little without sanding anything.
What would you recommend? Thanks..

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Jackp
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  9:41:47 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It depends on how the stock is finished. If it's just linseed oil you can clean it with Murphy's Oil Soap. Otherwise you're probably looking at using hydrocarbon solvents. I've used acetone to remove oil based varnishes. Polyurethane or epoxy is another matter. Then you need a chemical stripper. Afterwards rub it down it with raw linseed oil (aka Flax seed oil from the health food store). Good luck.

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americanboy
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  05:54:58 AM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Post deleted.

I had one of those senior-moments.

Edited by - americanboy on 11/03/2017 06:42:43 AM
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Satanta
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  6:50:36 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's the norm linseed oil. Just really grunge over all the years. I read another post via Google that I ended up going with. You never know till you try.
It was to clean it with the original Go-Jo hand cleaner without the pumice. Use it with 0001 steel wool, warm water clean off, blow dry, then wipe with mineral spirits. Let dry a day or two, and start applying slowly the flax-seed oil.
It cleaned up well, and still retains some look of the dark areas, yeah plus! and they said it would look like crap after the drying. They were right.
I have yet to apply any oil. Just cleaned it this morning.
Come Sunday, I will begin the oil treatment to desired finish.
Hope it works, and I think it will. Got my fingers crossed.
I will post the results later next week.
Thanks Jackp for your input. Small town, and I could not find Murphy's Oil Soap.
Any input of applying the oil would be nice. For start, do I look for the liquid, or caps?


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Jackp
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  7:14:25 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can probably find an 8 oz bottle of cold pressed organic flax seed oil at your local CVS or health food store. I got mine at Trader Joe's. It will last you a lifetime. Apply with a soft cloth and rub it in by hand until dry. Repeat several times. The more you do it, the better it looks. Great way to spend your time while watching TV. I got my Murphy's Oil Soap at an unfinished furniture store. I bet Home Depot or Lowe's has it, too.

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Tuna
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  8:35:35 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If it's a Birch stock then be advised that they come out mottled the vast majority of the time. Nature of the wood as to why. If you mix a small amount of oil with a small amount of alcohol and then apply a little at a time. The thinned out mix gets absorbed into the wood better.

Edited by - Tuna on 11/03/2017 8:36:25 PM
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Satanta
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  9:26:46 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks again to all. Birch stock, how do you tell? I assume it is since it is a potbelly with the Italian FAT 69 stamp. It could of came from many sources from what I understand.
? Be advised that they come out mottled the vast majority of the time.
Please explain, I'm not getting that?
I will apply with care, ha -- set up a protective lap and floor barrier. Watch Private Ryan and enjoy the outcome I hope.
It did not come with the hand guard, so if this works I will be shopping for a close match.
What should I be looking for? 4 rivet of course, birch? which I don't know how to identify via pics.
Any help on the hunt from the zillion hand guards would be helpful also.
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Jackp
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Posted - 11/03/2017 :  9:56:59 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Birch is usually lighter in color and the grain is a little tighter. I have one that I use for a "shooter" stock to save my original stocks from wear and tear. It's a Springfield Armory potbelly. After cleaning it as much as possible, I applied a walnut colored oil based stain as evenly as possible. After it dried I used mineral spirits to remove the excess stain to get the desired tint and to lighten the "mottled" areas as necessary. Afterwards I applied the flax seed oil and rubbed as I described until I got a beautiful satin finish. It turned out great.

You can find birch hand guards on Ebay for about $25. Here's an example:

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Satanta
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2017 :  4:29:41 PM  Show Profile Send Satanta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jack, Price is right, etc. But I'm not sure what wood I have now for sure. I put the oil on it today, still playing with it, but it looks great. Very happy with it. It does seem to be darker than the birch one on eBay.
Actually the color is much like the carbine picture posted with this web site.
Appreciate the input, have the birch on my watch list and am in no hurry. I might be able to stain it to come close, but I'm not very handy with that kind of talent. One will pop up I'm sure that will have a few dings and patina marks like my stock does. Found one that really looked like the perfect match, the four rivet holes on top, but on the flip side you could see where the four rivet tang had been replaced with the shorter tang and two rivets. $14 and not a deal breaker I guess, but still not desired. I'm sure it would be fine, my Inland is two rivet of course, and never a whim of trouble. It's just the idea I guess, haha.. Looks like a four, but is just a two.
Pun intended. Nobody would even know but me, that my underwear is on inside out.
Thanks again to you and Tuna for input. I used Tuna's input and added a little alcohol with the flax.
I have two coats on it now. Love the look. But is that enough? Is it true that the more you put on, the darker it gets?
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