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jski
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Posted - 05/20/2017 :  09:03:18 AM  Show Profile Send jski a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have any of you guys checked out this video review, courtesy of InRange?

It, of course, discusses the Inland reproduction and in addition the GI and Universal Carbines. Not altogether flattering of any. Not sure about these guys.

You must be logged in to see this link.

BTW, I didn't include a link to Part 1 because it merely showed one of the reviewers running about firing the reproduction M1 Carbine.

Edited by - jski on 05/20/2017 09:06:40 AM

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americanboy
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Posted - 05/20/2017 :  1:01:20 PM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anybody with a camera can produce a video these days and post it on the web. We already know people have low opinions of the Inland and every other commercial carbine and many don't care for any version no matter where it came from. They can continue to convince themselves that their work is impressing somebody. I'd rather watch and listen to people that actually used the gun for it's intended purpose while in harms way than watch these two clowns. If they charged admission to watch this junk...most of them would be out of business rather quickly.

I have to go clean my Underwood, Iver Johnson 9MM and Universal carbine now. I've been to my range most of the morning driving-up the cost of powder, projectiles and primers by shooting all I had time for. 300-rounds and not one single stoppage from any of the three.

Edited by - americanboy on 05/20/2017 1:02:37 PM
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jski
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Posted - 05/20/2017 :  9:26:34 PM  Show Profile Send jski a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep, these 2 boys in the video kept insisting the M1 Carbine, whether GI or commercial, was inherently a 95% gun. Meaning that inherent in the design are flaws which inevitably lead to 1 in 20 trigger pulls resulting in failure to cycle. Strangely, of the commercial products they seemed most favorably disposed to Universal. Even though they kept referring to it as a "p.o.s.". Maybe for them it's a term of endearment? Makes you wonder what they'd say about the others.

One interesting claim of theirs was that the GIs who actually liked the M1 Carbine were servicemen who didn't really have to rely on it. The frontline troops all hated it.

Edited by - jski on 05/20/2017 11:31:49 PM
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Tuna
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Posted - 05/21/2017 :  6:32:27 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If that were true then the troops in the front lines never would have had any carbines. They were never meant to be used by front line troops and were set for support troops. But man did they find their way to the front lines and they stayed there. Guess the front line troops all hated them just so much. There is nothing wrong with early Universal carbines. The later ones though are P.O.S.!!!!! Not all commercial carbines are bad. Plainfield carbines have always been quality. But the "New" Inland are just like the A.O. carbines, P.O.S.
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BQ97
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Posted - 05/21/2017 :  6:41:37 PM  Show Profile Send BQ97 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tuna

They were never meant to be used by front line troops and were set for support troops.



An Internet myth with no basis in fact.
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jski
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  03:06:10 AM  Show Profile Send jski a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Tuna, the late model Universals, with the "2 recoil springs", were the commercial carbines they were most favorably disposed toward.

Can't say I blame them for that.

Edited by - jski on 05/22/2017 03:08:56 AM
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Tuna
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  10:27:35 AM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brian, That is what I meant when I said If that was true. I probably could have worked it better.
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Jackp
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  12:30:29 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When I first started collecting, I was surprised to learn that more carbines were manufactured during WWII than M1 Garands. I was also surprised to learn that the carbine was the main battle rifle during the Korean war. It only makes sense that commercial carbines were so popular in the absence of available USGI carbines.

JackP
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jski
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  12:44:34 PM  Show Profile Send jski a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How many times have I heard the BS from the ignorant and inexperienced ... that the Carbine is inherently flawed in its design? That the round "failed to penetrate the coats of Chinese soldiers" when it "certainly hit the Chinese soldier". That it's sim[ply a "weak round" in a "flawed gun". "Hardly worth having."
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rg1911
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USA
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Posted - 05/22/2017 :  5:19:44 PM  Show Profile Send rg1911 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Concerning penetration, my *opinion* is that the .30 Carbine round is ballistically similar to the .357 Mag loaded with 110-gr bullets (although a bit fatter). Few, if any, would thumb their noses at that loading. And I've seen lots of images of troops on the front line who were using the carbine. My understanding is they found it particularly handy in door-to-door and jungle fighting at the shortened ranges.

Cheers,
Richard
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savagebrother
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USA
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Posted - 11/30/2017 :  6:45:51 PM  Show Profile Send savagebrother a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mmmm I think those guys should get there money back from the shyster that sold them them their professional gun tester and historian plaque.
Cause they obviously aren't either of those things.
SB

If it ain't broke don't try to fix it
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