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Mac1971
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Posted - 01/23/2016 :  9:53:52 PM  Show Profile Send Mac1971 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Can anyone tell me the good, the bad, and the ugly about these 2 M1s, please?? I've done some looking/research on my own but there are just waaaaay too many variables involved. I know parts have been replaced on both weapons (especially the Blue Sky) but I'm not sure about how 'correct' these are (especially the Inland). Any help is appreciated.

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Posted - 01/24/2016 :  3:52:11 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can tell you that the Blue Sky has been through at least one total rebuild. It was imported from Korea in the later part of the 80's. The Inland being made in November 1944 was made with most of the latest updates for that time period BUT it too have been through a rebuild where things like safety and magazine catch were replaced. There is nothing bad about the carbines. The Inland may be worth a couple of hundred more then the Winchester only because the Winchester is an import. But it too looks like it's been refinish. Better photos would help.
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Jackp
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Posted - 01/24/2016 :  4:55:46 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To me the Inland looks like it has been refinished more than once. The matte finish suggests excessive sand blasting. Notice how washed out the letters on the barrel and receiver are. Also, the stock looks to me to be a modern replacement with replica cartouche and ordinance bomb. The cartouche, if original is wrong for an Inland anyway. One other thing that sticks out is the parting line on the operating slide, suggesting that it might be a cast part, a feature not found on USGI carbines. Perhaps it's a commercial part. It may be a decent shooter but it's appearance, although pleasant will keep it from being a desirable collectible.

The Winchester has a similar, although not as severe, matte appearance but I think you do have an original stock (high wood). I would need to see a close up of the sling well to know for sure. It has post war barrel band, mag catch and safety rebuild upgrades and with the import mark is also not a desirable "collectible" carbine. However it may be a good shooter and being a Winchester, a popular brand, it may be as valuable as the Inland even with the import mark. I would replace the recoil plate with one that is finished.

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Edited by - Jackp on 01/24/2016 5:00:10 PM
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Mac1971
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  11:42:02 AM  Show Profile Send Mac1971 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys! For the record, the Blue Sky has Inland stamped on the receiver under the rear sight. I thought the non-import looked too pristine to be legit. Even the feed ramp is parkerized... The stock seems a bit off being a potbelly also. I would have thought it should be a high wood being an earlier manufacture.

The Blue Sky has a few parts that have no finish at all (shiny metal) and looks like it was shot quite a bit.

The barrel on the Blue Sky is unmarked other than some sort of proof mark on top of it. Does that mark denote anything special? I'm assuming it's not the original barrel?
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Jackp
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  12:15:51 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I didn't even notice the Inland name on the receiver. I was too distracted by the shiny recoil plate, my bad. But it is a Winchester barrel and stock. The stock alone may be worth a couple hundred bucks.

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Jackp
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  2:45:22 PM  Show Profile Send Jackp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BTW, the proof mark on the barrel is Winchester's traditional "W" over "P" proof mark found on all their firearms. Your're right, the barrel is a replacement. Maybe the whole rifle was made from leftovers.

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Edited by - Jackp on 01/25/2016 2:47:14 PM
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cali201
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  3:03:05 PM  Show Profile Send cali201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did I miss something? They are both Inland carbines, I do see a Winchester barrel but I see two Inland receivers???????????
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swampmolly
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  3:27:00 PM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you have 2 Inland receivers then you have 2 Inland carbines with Winchester barrels. It is a long shot but just make sure it dose not have M2 marked Instead of M1 on the top front of the receiver. I believe some Inlands were manufactured as machine guns and marked as M2.
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Mac1971
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  6:44:17 PM  Show Profile Send Mac1971 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They're both marked M1
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Mac1971
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Posted - 01/25/2016 :  7:00:35 PM  Show Profile Send Mac1971 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cali201

Did I miss something? They are both Inland carbines, I do see a Winchester barrel but I see two Inland receivers???????????



You didn't miss a thing. That's exactly what I've got apparently. One Inland receiver/Inland barrel and one Inland receiver/Winchester barrel.
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tex
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Posted - 01/12/2017 :  06:26:24 AM  Show Profile Send tex a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Boy those "Blue sky" guys imported a lot of these guns!.......I see a lot of them here in TX, All of them I have seen have been pretty good guns, What do all you guys think about them?
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Tuna
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Posted - 01/13/2017 :  1:36:12 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They are USGI carbines that are marked Blue Sky on the sides of the barrels. Many were well used and some were not. All were rebuilt and updated most likely more then once in Korea and yet they still give good service today.
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