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Ian
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Canada
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Posted - 08/11/2013 :  02:53:06 AM  Show Profile Send Ian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was lucky enough to find this carbine locally, despite their rarity. They shoot, work and handle the same as a GI gun, but have a few interesting parts differences. Note the only GI part that won't function perfectly on a Howa is the rear sight assembly. These guns were produced in Japan during the 1960's for the Royal Thai Police, on USGI equipment. The rear sight is a 2 aperture windage adjustable unit, the operating rod is vertically serrated, and the bayonet lug is a simple band.





This part has to be removed in order to import a Howa to the US



These guns are importable to the US as they are considered police surplus, not military surplus, by BATFE. The only problem is that there are not a whole lot anywhere. There are 12 registered in Canada. They're quite easy to spot, as they have the Royal Thai Police crest on the bridge, and very few other markings - a serial number on the heal, a proof under the barrel and that's it. This particular gun has had it's bolt replaced with a round 'W' marked bolt. I have seen another Howa locally with US property markings, given where they were made for, and when they were used, it would be great if they could talk.

Edited by - jimb16 on 08/23/2013 7:48:19 PM

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Tuna
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Posted - 08/11/2013 :  2:12:15 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All parts except the rear sight are interchangeable with USGI. The quality of them is as good if not better then USGI carbines. The numbers imported into Canada were estimates only and about 6000 seems to be the standard given. Then approximately 4000 of them entered the US on the west coast. There they were checked and if any parts were bad they were replaced with USGI parts. They are import stamped on the right side of the receiver and in small letters. The one I had was almost unused and shot very well. The value on these has been slowly climbing over the years. The rear sight can be replaced with a USGI sight but it takes some work on the sight and maybe a bit on the dovetail to get it to fit properly. The only maker mark on the carbine is the latter H for Howa on the bottom of the barrel flat. Great carbines and other then the crude ones made in China are the only ones made outside of the US for use by another country.

Edited by - Tuna on 08/11/2013 2:14:31 PM
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Hobberdobber
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USA
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Posted - 08/23/2013 :  7:11:12 PM  Show Profile Send Hobberdobber a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi: I'm a new member as of today 8/23/2013 and I would like to say hello to all of you.
I bought a howa at a auction and the barrel is shot out and has a bulge about 6-8" in. was quoted 300.00 plus to replace it. Is the gun much of a collectable.
Thank you
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Tuna
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Posted - 08/23/2013 :  10:26:15 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well when they first came into the country I paid $250 for mine and it was all Howa including the stock. It was in excellent condition and I sold it a couple of years ago for $900. So the value of them has increased a lot recently. A new barrel should not cost you $300. You can buy a new commercial barrel for about $175 and around $80 for the gunsmith to install and finish ream the chamber. It won't be as collectible but where can you get a reliable carbine with a new barrel for around $550 total. Even at $600 it would be a very good price.
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HkPlinker
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Posted - 02/09/2014 :  3:43:07 PM  Show Profile Send HkPlinker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where can I find the boa lug for my Howa ? Looks great on the barrel

HkPlinker
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Tuna
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Posted - 02/10/2014 :  11:34:22 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can try Ebay or Gun Broker for them but they are hard to find.
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