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BEYU
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USA
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Posted - 01/06/2013 :  12:00:01 AM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This question may be as welcome as a fart in church!

I am wondering how the old Assault Weapons ban of 1994 effected those of you who owned M1 carbines at the time. What happened to the availability of parts, ammo, etc.?

I believe Sen Dianne Feinstein was one of those who wrote the ban back in 1994, and I bet she is likely to be the one who has the most influence on it this time. My guess is that a new ban, if passed, will be essentially a beefed up version of the old one.

I just heard on the radio news today that VP Biden expects to have recommendations for the Pres by the end of January. It was further reported that they may put some "restrictions" through by EXECUTIVE ORDER, rather than going through Congress.

By the way, NYC Mayor Bloomberg is one of those advising Biden.

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Benj. Franklin

Edited by - BEYU on 01/08/2013 12:45:35 PM

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Tom1951
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  08:04:13 AM  Show Profile Send Tom1951 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My personal opinion is that an organized march on Washington is way overdue...My rights are important to me & the fact that they are even considering proposing such legislation aimed at the second amendment really makes me mad.

We, as a nation are in danger of handing over our liberty & rights due to the lack of a public display of outrage at the way Washington has been operating.

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BEYU
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USA
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  12:04:30 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A march may be the only thing to get their attention — if anything will.

I would also encourage everyone concerned about their Second Amendment rights to support the NRA, GOA, Tea Party, or other organizations of your choice. The Left and their media lapdogs are trying to create a popular groundswell (tsunami) to accomplish their final goal. What is their final goal? The OUTLAWING of ALL FIREARMS.

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Benj. Franklin
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cali201
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USA
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Posted - 01/09/2013 :  5:15:08 PM  Show Profile Send cali201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Dictatorships, both past and present, follow common patterns. While their methods for attaining their powerful positions vary—Adolf Hitler and Hugo Chavez were freely elected, Joseph Stalin slowly developed his prominence within the ruling political party, and Mao Tse-Tung and Fidel Castro led violent revolutions--they facilitate their increasing stronghold on the population through similar measures. Most commonly, an aspiring dictator disarms the population, thereby facilitating an easy slaughter of the opposition. As a population, it is expedient for us to understand both historical and modern examples of how dictators have used civilian disarmament to attain and maintain absolute control that we might recognize instances evident in our society and immediately curtail such efforts
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m14msgt
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Posted - 01/28/2013 :  3:13:18 PM  Show Profile Send m14msgt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what needs to happen is the same thing that happened in 1776. We, as true Americans are being threatened by a totalitarian dictator who, like King George, will arm his "redcoat" thugs and try to disarm us all...only difference is they don't have to cross an ocean to get to our shores...they're already here!
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Highway Star
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  12:30:56 AM  Show Profile Send Highway Star a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by m14msgt

what needs to happen is the same thing that happened in 1776. We, as true Americans are being threatened by a totalitarian dictator who, like King George, will arm his "redcoat" thugs and try to disarm us all...only difference is they don't have to cross an ocean to get to our shores...they're already here!



Amen brother! It's like a slow moving tide, barely discernable until it's at our doorstep, then it's too late for us to act.
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jlwilliams
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USA
78 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2013 :  1:04:26 PM  Show Profile Send jlwilliams a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read the text of the proposed law. I doubt it will come through as it is, but what is proposed is what is proposed, and it's not the same as the '94 ban. It eliminates quite a few of our favorite weapons, but in the context of this forum and this conversation, it exempts the fixed stock M1 Carbine and several post war copies by name. While it imposes the ten round mag limit across the board, it doesn't ban the M1 Carbine as a platform. In fact, it leaves the Carbine as almost the only gun in it's category left standing. The Ruger Minis are allowable with limitations (no 'tactical' models, no folding stocks, so on) and the SKS is still OK, but the SKS is no longer really in production except in (I think) Zastava and I doubt that a whole lot more will be allowed to be imported. Most other semi auto carbines get the axe.

The ban kills virtually every pistol caliber auto loading carbine. It bans by name all the semi auto Tommy guns, all the Uzis, the HiPoint, the MAC and just about every pistol cal long arm except lever and pump guns. Virtually nothing that fires a rimless pistol round gets by the ban. Now the M1 Carbine isn't truly a pistol caliber long arm, but with no 9mm carbines available, the 30 Carbine is kind of left as the only game in town for the niche between .22lr and .223. Not a huge demand sector, but it is what it is. The 9mm AR may not be the most practical or versitile weapon out there, but there are quite a few sold and I do see them at ranges. It's a market segment worth selling to.

In short, IF the ban were to go through as is I wouldn't be surprised to see some now commercial carbines for sale. I likewise wouldn't be surprised to see Auto Ordinance or the newly re opened Iver Johnson or some other outfit offer "M1 Carbines" in 9mm, 45 and 40S&W with ten round mags. There have been custom gunsmith conversions of the Carbine to various pistol rounds over the decades. Most notably the LeFrance 9mm WinMag and 45 WinMag conversions. It's a small action and not the most complex action in the world. If AR15 pistol cal conversions are no longer a legal option and M1 Carbine ones are legal, I can see manufacturers going that route.
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jimb16
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USA
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  9:16:44 PM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IT DOES NOT LEAVE OUT THE CARBINE! The text descriptions include any other firearm with even ONE military characteristic. A bayonet lug is enough. Or maybe a folding stock (M1A1). Just because it isn't specifically named, doesn't mean that it isn't included.

OGCA Lifer, 03 Cruffler
son of a 325th GIR Glider Rider
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jlwilliams
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USA
78 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2013 :  08:56:50 AM  Show Profile Send jlwilliams a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Daveish
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USA
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Posted - 02/03/2013 :  10:58:37 AM  Show Profile Send Daveish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The bill exempts the fixed-stock M1 carbine. The bayonet-lug has been removed as one of the features (one of Feinstein’s favorite “talking points” over the years).

The text in question: “All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.”

Dave

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WrathChild
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USA
15 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2013 :  08:44:26 AM  Show Profile Send WrathChild a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update-
Feinstein's bill bit the dust, for now......
hopefully prices go down and availability goes up, i want my factory new Ruger Mini 30 for $900

"Don't ask what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you."
-Megadeth, not JFK
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Kilibreaux
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USA
51 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2016 :  07:04:02 AM  Show Profile Send Kilibreaux a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The current climate is non-conducive to any further restriction of 2A rights at the Federal level. The problem is what each State decides and what is upheld by each State's Supreme court.
Conservative States will uphold the individual right.
Liberal States will maintain the individual has no right.

Sadly our Federal government is complicient in allowing foreign terrorists to come here and establish residency, then "pretend" their **** offspring is "American" when in FACT, based on long-standing understanding of human behavior, any "child" of an extremist foreigner is more likely than not going to grow up to espouse the same belief system as their PARENTS! In this case...muslim extremists hell-bent on killing Americans!

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