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starislon
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Posted - 05/26/2008 :  04:00:40 AM  Show Profile Send starislon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have acquired a import mixer NPM with the stamped marking "Kart" in front of the adjustable rear sight.

Could that marking be anything other than German for cartridge? Swiss? Austrian? There seem to be no other foreign marking of any kind. Thanks in advance for any help.

starislon

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War Eagle
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Posted - 05/29/2008 :  07:54:25 AM  Show Profile Send War Eagle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought I had read somewhere years ago and I can not find where it was, but I remember that it was from Norway or Sweden. "K. Art." is short for their army unit. Same as USA or USN is short for US Army or US Navy. And yes, I have one. Typically, they were stamped on the recoil plate, ground off, stamped on the receiver bevel and then re-stamped in front of the rear sight.
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starislon
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Posted - 05/31/2008 :  2:32:27 PM  Show Profile Send starislon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First of all I want to apologize fror my slow response to all who have responded to my post on this subject. My computer is not functioning and I've had to acquire time on wife's computer which is not easy.

I haven't yet read all the responses as I just copied the reponders names from the administrators e-mail notifications.

War Eagle seems to have hit nail on head, as my NPM with 'Kart' has a portion back by, or on, the top of the recoil plate that appears to have been ground-off. The other thing I will mention now is Century listed both the IBM's and NPM's that were listed in their ad as 'incomplete'. When I called to see how incomplete they were I was told that they were just missing some small inexpensive parts, and all 'major' parts were there. They also told me at that time that all the IBM's had been sold.

I have not yet attempted to fire the NPM, however it appears to function as intended and all parts seem to be there. I have not attempted anything other than field stripping however. Both the recoil spring and the slide stop spring seemed 'weak' and I replaced the recoil spring and attempted to replace the slide-stop spring but Numrick sent me the incorrect spring, sending a ten coil rather than a 7 or 8 coil spring that Riesch warns about in his book. The other 'flaw' I've noticed so far is some pitting around the right side of the barrel just behind the front sight, and also some pitting on the front sight barrel band also on the right side. The bore seems very strong. It is configured as re-arsenaled with bayonet lug, flip safety, and adjustable sights.

I hope to have pictures on my three carbines soon, as I now appear to have picture capability on refurbished computer that has already accepted pictures from my digital camera. I'm just waiting on software & hook-up via WIFI to get back on line.

starislon
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starislon
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Posted - 05/31/2008 :  9:20:39 PM  Show Profile Send starislon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Two corrections on my previous post: 1) ground off portion is on bevel of receiver, NOT recoil plate, recoil plate appears unaltered. 2)I hope to have pictures of two carbines on forum soon, not three, as I sold IBM mixer import this afternoon.

In response to War Eagle RE 'K art' marking. It seems Sweden or Norway is probable, I notice "Crown" is "Krona" in Swedish, "Krone" in Danish and as Jim points out "Royal" in Dutch is "Koninklijke". I'm wondering if the first three letters in any of those languages for "artillery" is "art." Then it would signify King's Artillery, Queen's Artillery, or, Royal artillery. Just speculation, of course.

starislon
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Sleeplessnashadow
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Posted - 10/09/2008 :  07:27:55 AM  Show Profile Send Sleeplessnashadow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Carbine Club Newsletter 295 p. 4, May 1, 2001

Research by Larry Ruth led to discovery of the following.

Norwegian Military Markings

FLY: Air Force
KNM: Royal Norwegian Navy
HV: Home Guard
NBS: Norwegian Government Railway
K.ART: Coast Artillery
POLITI: Police

Some with the K.ART markings were imported by Navy Arms and have the following importer mark on the barrel: "N.A. Co. Ridgefield, N.J."

More recently, Century Arms imported carbines with these markings and has been selling them this year (2008). These have the importer mark "C.A.I. GEORGIA, VT"

Records of the Military Assistance Program on the National Archives website indicate Norway received 98,267 U.S. "M1/M2 carbines" between October 1950 and 1963.

Sorry I didn't post this sooner, just saw it.

Jim
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