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newbutold
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Posted - 03/17/2017 :  6:22:23 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing in the chamber, but my bolt is stuck about 1" from the breech. Stuck hard. Probably broken, but I don't know for sure.

How do I proceed? Brut force? or tried and true remedies?

Love the gun, and don't want to wreck it.

Thank-you....

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bonnie
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Posted - 03/17/2017 :  9:25:29 PM  Show Profile Send bonnie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has the op rod tab popped out from the receiver? This can cause the slide to bind and cause the bolt to appear stuck. I would field strip the gun and inspect each major part. Could be something broken or not.
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Tuna
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  08:56:22 AM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Take the carbine out of it's stock. Then take the trigger housing off and remove the recoil spring. Now look over the slide and bolt to see if the bolt lug is still in the slide recess or not and see where it's binding. Once the pressure is off the slide from the recoil spring it may just function normally unless there is a problem with the bolt or slide. If they are still stuck you may have to apply some form of force to unlock them.

Edited by - Tuna on 03/18/2017 08:58:14 AM
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newbutold
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  2:19:58 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Got the bolt closed with a rubber mallet, then I could pull the recoil pin/spring. Mallet the bolt back to full open and what appears to be a primer was what caused the jamb.
Think I'll order a bolt. Current one is a flat top stamped ID with a sideways 2.

Suggestions appreciated.
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bonnie
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USA
169 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2017 :  2:38:26 PM  Show Profile Send bonnie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Were you using reloads or factory ammunition?


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BEYU
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USA
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  2:56:02 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having a primer come out of the case seems kinda scary to me.

I am new to reloading, but excessive pressure in the case (reloads?) is not a good thing.

Question: Was the spent case, the one missing its primer, deformed in any way? Any burns around the primer pocket?

Also, another pertinent question: Who is the manufuacture of your carbine? Is it USGI or commercial? Is it a Universal?

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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newbutold
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  3:00:02 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Reloads from a friend whose late Dad had built them many years ago. Won't use any more of them, lesson learned.
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americanboy
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  4:45:24 PM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know you feel like you're getting beat on, but many of us have stories about reloads. My brother-n-law brought me his Kahr 9MM pistol a while back. He had found most of the parts that had blew-off the gun and I was able to repair it after I ordered the parts he had trashed. I asked him what he was shooting...it was gun show reloads and he blew it apart on the first round. I do reload, but NEVER shoot anybody's else's reloads. I have had a primer back out on a round thru my 9MM M1, but there was no sign of over-pressure. I think it was just a case with an enlarged pocket that I didn't catch. You can check all the other fired rounds and see if they have any over pressure signs....or just do like already recommended and toss what you have left.
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newbutold
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  5:28:00 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've reloaded thousands of shot shells but no center fires.
Looking for a complete, like new .30 Carbine Bolt, preferably Inland..........
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bonnie
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USA
169 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2017 :  6:59:54 PM  Show Profile Send bonnie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there a problem with your flat bolt that makes it unusable?
If you do get a new bolt it should to be checked for proper headspace to your carbine.
Lastly with the new commercial carbine company "Inland", it is my understanding their commercial bolt will not fit a USGI gun.
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cali201
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USA
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Posted - 03/18/2017 :  7:33:21 PM  Show Profile Send cali201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NEVER shoot anyones reloads but your own!
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newbutold
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Posted - 03/19/2017 :  10:22:27 AM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I ordered a bolt take-down tool. Curious to see if my bolt is rebuildable, I see parts are available.
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americanboy
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USA
329 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2017 :  07:37:15 AM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bonnie

Is there a problem with your flat bolt that makes it unusable?



Not much to the bolt itself. If the extractor is not damaged, moves freely under spring tension and the firing-pin and ejector seem okay, there may not be anything wrong with it.
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newbutold
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Posted - 03/20/2017 :  4:14:30 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ejector isn't working so I ordered a bolt rebuild kit.
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bonnie
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USA
169 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2017 :  5:41:47 PM  Show Profile Send bonnie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Spares parts are always good to have.
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Tuna
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Posted - 03/20/2017 :  7:05:09 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will give you a bit of a hint here. When you replace the extractor, if you put some grease on the end of the spring to hold extractor plunger in place so it sits on the extractor properly. Makes it is bit easier to set and line up. As to the ejector. Once you take it out you may find the spring inside is broken or that it's jammed up with old solidified grease. If so just clean the inside of ejector well and also clean the spring. If the spring is broken then of course replace the spring and a cleaning inside the ejector well. A little grease on anything that slides and a drop of oil on normal springs and pins. Your ready to go.
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newbutold
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Posted - 04/01/2017 :  5:41:19 PM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Finally got my bolt re-built and back together today. Still needs a trip to the range.
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americanboy
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USA
329 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2017 :  6:31:54 PM  Show Profile Send americanboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Exactly where did that primer stick?
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newbutold
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  09:12:30 AM  Show Profile Send newbutold a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right side bolt slide.
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