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bruno
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2014 :  02:49:08 AM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trying to find out info, first off I have heard that qh used parts besides barrels, for there rifles. It has a buffalo arm 9 1942 on the barrel with bomb. Barrel band says ai and has bayonet lug.front sight has a p. The bolt is marked w, and is flat.trigger housing is got a u stamp.the slide has w and x. O, on the op rod. The hammer is stamed wi. It is in prestine condition. Shoots 1.5 to 2 moa all day long. I do have all quality hardware parts. To make it correct or near correct. But if any one can give me info on it, I would be....very greatfull. Like I said I heard they used bolts, sears, trigger housings ect, to complete the rifles. So it could be correct the way it is. But I doubt it that all parts are right. I seen riverbank armory is selling front sights markd p or pi for 350 bucks. Wow.

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swampmolly
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Posted - 04/30/2014 :  10:19:08 AM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bruno, you should consider your-self a lucky man. I do agree that finding the right ammo for your carbine is a very important factor for shooting sub 2 MOA groups consistently ( all day long).
I think it would be interesting to define a sub 2 MOA group as, (shooting 7 out 10 shots in a 2 inch group at 100 yards using a rest of your choice, scope or open sights ) and do it consistently .
I for one would like to know how many people on this forum have such a carbine, and how it got that way??? So I can stop trying to re-invent the wheel again. ( LOL)
Thanks
SM
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bruno
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2014 :  2:03:09 PM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm talking 3 shot groups, with 30 seconds in between shots. With a red dot sight. When I first got it it shot maybe 4 or 5 inch groups. That was 30 years ago. Making things tight, and control my oal to all the same with proper crimp is what helped. Not to mention I weigh every charge. And check my oal on every cartridge.
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swampmolly
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2014 :  3:42:12 PM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's some nice shooting at 100 yards right there.
What kind of rest do you have and what length do you trim the casings?
Nice job, I better get busy because I doubt I have another 20 years left. LOL
SM
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bruno
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2014 :  04:34:37 AM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I trim cases to 1.285 and over all length to 1.690... I use good crimp and miss moly spray on my bullets and bore. And yes I shoot from a rest. I'm going to try some new reloads today, I will try and post pics of my target. Accurate 4100 at 15.8 grains gives me 2265fps and 2moa 3 shot groups. My bolt and slide are moly coated to.
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Tuna
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Posted - 05/03/2014 :  10:43:26 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even being moly coated that is extremely high velocity for a carbine. Normal velocity is in the 1950 fps range and I am thinking your velocity is being generated by some much higher then normal pressures. Peak pressure for the carbine is 40,000 psi and should not be exceeded as it will damage the receiver and bolt.
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bruno
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USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2014 :  10:58:38 PM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nope 4100 is a shotgun propellent, gives higher velocity, with less pressure. And its super clean burning. If you want good groups. You must have a stable bullet. More speed better groups. Most of the time. I've had it up to 2350fps. But that was were I was getting sum pressure signs. My kimber 8400. 270 wsm moly coated. Magpro powder 150 grain bergers vld 3275 fps. 130gr s st are running 3494fps. Been reloading 30 yrs. I think I know what I'm doing. I reload the carbine just like like I load for a bolt action, clean primer pockets, all the same length, ect. No craterd primers no problem extracting cases. Takes me a long time to reload but very precise.
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bruno
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USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2014 :  11:19:11 PM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not trying to be a smart a$$ either. Just saying been loading this long never blew anything up. And I still learn things, even after all these years of reloading. Some people don't believe me to we go to the range, and they see it on thy chrono graph. Even more surprised when they see the target. I get mad at a flier thell say what are you hunting wood chucks? Some people are happy to hit a paper plate at 100yds. Others won't be happy unless the shoot a half a minute of angle. I'm the second person. I'll be up till 7am trying to find out what's wrong, or make it work.
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swampmolly
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USA
764 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2014 :  10:01:28 AM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bruno
It sounds to me that you have spent a long time perfecting your carbine's hardware and it's amunition with extrodinary results.
Not being a reloader has relieved me of the choice to follow your example or not. In a way I am glad that I don't have to take a really good shooting carbine and put it on steroids. If I was a reloader I'm not sure what I would do. For now I'll stick to an occasioal 2 MOA group, with factory ammo. I do believe I would be more inclined to try this ammo load on a USGI carbine than a commercial, because commercials have a cast receiver, not forged steel. Just a thought.
Thanks for the information and I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures.
SM

Edited by - swampmolly on 05/05/2014 7:53:34 PM
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bruno
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USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  01:58:02 AM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm on a tablet and it don't have a camera on the front ,,so I gata take the picks facing the keyboard. So bare with me on the pics. Also I need to know how to post them??. If some one can give me a fast run down. I would appreciate it. Thank you.
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bruno
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USA
55 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  02:07:52 AM  Show Profile Send bruno a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also I'm gana build a fulton armory carbine. 249.00 for the reciever. I can get a good barrel for 140.00 and I have some exta parts. They are milled and hardend to above gi specs. And the quality hardware is gana be a safe queen. I am gana put all the correct parts back on it. And have a heirloom. It was mt grandpas. Which he has had since 1958. In the last 30 years it has maybe seen 200 rounds fired out of it. I want a shooter. Don't wana burn it out. I've checked throat erosion and bore diameter. It is still in spec. Along with head space gauges.
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swampmolly
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USA
764 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  12:22:21 PM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not to good at pictures but have a few notes. Left target 1st 5 shots at 50 yds, second is the next 5 shots.
How to post a picture on Carbine forum
Post picture to Photo bucket, then select picture to post and Copy Photo Bucket link and paste it between [ I M G ] [ / I M G ] ( Use insert image tag in replay )to get IMG IMG . Used some of Jack's post. Hope this works. LOL
Posted - 05/03/2014 : 9:35:09 PM
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To display the photo on the forum page itself, copy the "Direct" link for your picture from Photobucket and paste it like this:
[ i m g ] your "Direct" Photobucket link here [ / i m g ]
Check it with the "preview" tab first and then "submit" it if it looks okay.
JackP

Edited by - jimb16 on 05/07/2014 8:38:03 PM
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jimb16
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USA
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Posted - 05/07/2014 :  8:39:21 PM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Edited you post to make it work Swampmolly.

OGCA Lifer, son of a 325th GIR Glider Rider
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swampmolly
Senior Member



USA
764 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  8:57:18 PM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay Jim thanks. What did you do to make the image come up without opening the link?
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jimb16
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USA
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Posted - 05/07/2014 :  9:08:09 PM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I looked at the image statement and found that the [img part was missing from the statement. I just added the front bracket and img to it and the image came right up. The rest of the image statement can be typed out without a problem if you put spaces between the letters.

OGCA Lifer, son of a 325th GIR Glider Rider
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swampmolly
Senior Member



USA
764 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2014 :  9:44:00 PM  Show Profile Send swampmolly a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jim, it doesn't seem like I should have to re-wright the statement. Which Photobucket link should I choose? IMG or direct or what?
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