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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/18/2016 :  9:33:43 PM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just bought a 6.5 million Winchester, all Winchester, very minty, shows little or no use, ME=<0.5. Under the recoil plate, the hole for the screw appears to be sleeved. Is this a USGI modification?

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shadycon
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  07:37:05 AM  Show Profile Send shadycon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does the stock have the M2 cut?
A sleeve like this will make the stock stronger, less likely to crack.

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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  10:01:46 AM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
shadycon,
It does not have the M2 cutout. The only M2-related feature is the mag catch with the extra support.
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Tuna
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  10:44:09 AM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If there are no rebuild stamps then it was most likely done by Winchester. It may have become standard by the spring in 1945 when your carbine was made so any stock could become an M2 type stock further along during production.
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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  2:10:32 PM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have not seen this before. Is it known to be standard practice for late carbines?

Edited by - hunterman1 on 11/19/2016 7:51:26 PM
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always learning
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  7:08:50 PM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have several late Winchester M1 carbines stocks (long channels) and I've never seen this modification before. I do think it's USGI, but probably not done by Winchester. Are you sure it's a Winchester stock? Post some additional pictures of the stock. Winchester carbine stocks are easily identifiable.
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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  7:48:48 PM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here are the things that make me think it's a Winchester stock.

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always learning
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Posted - 11/19/2016 :  8:55:41 PM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, without a doubt a Winchester stock. Very nice...thanks for sharing. Does it have the four plus inch barrel channel like many late Winchester and Inland carbines received?

Edited by - always learning on 11/20/2016 07:24:09 AM
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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  08:25:31 AM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No it has a short channel.

Is this known to be standard practice for late carbines?

Edited by - hunterman1 on 11/20/2016 10:19:38 AM
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jimb16
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  11:02:54 AM  Show Profile Send jimb16 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes. I have seen that kind of sleeve before; on worn screw holes. Most folks feel that the long w in the sling bevel is not Winchester, but I believe it is. It appears on manylate Winchester stocks and | have a late stock that has BOTH the long and short Ws stamped there.

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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  11:53:05 AM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, jimb16,
I don't think the screw hole was worn so maybe it was not drilled perfectly for some reason. I, too, have other late Winchesters with the same W.
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always learning
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  8:45:08 PM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen some pretty crude efforts to enhance the W in some Winchester sling wells since the W is often so faint or even absent to begin with. To me anyway, Winchester carbine stocks have to be the most recognizable of them all, but some people can't resist messing with them unfortunately. Hunterman, yes the long channel stock is considered the most likely stock your 6.5 Winchester would have received, but maybe a short channel was still I the box if it is original to your carbine. Still, as I said it's a very nice carbine.
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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  9:21:54 PM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Carbine Club Newsletter 335 (6 & 7 Million Winchester Update) by Brian Quick, says that both short and long barrel channels were used intermixed in 6 million and 7 million serial numbers. I believe all the parts are original to this gun. My opinion is the bolt hole sleeve must have been a factory WRA repair to a mis-drilled hole.
Thanks for your input.
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always learning
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  9:46:58 PM  Show Profile Send always learning a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hunterman1

Carbine Club Newsletter 335 (6 & 7 Million Winchester Update) by Brian Quick, says that both short and long barrel channels were used intermixed in 6 million and 7 million serial numbers. I believe all the parts are original to this gun. My opinion is the bolt hole sleeve must have been a factory WRA repair to a mis-drilled hole.
Thanks for your input.



Cool. For curiosities' sake, what type three barrel band marking does it have?
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hunterman1
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Posted - 11/20/2016 :  10:07:22 PM  Show Profile Send hunterman1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
C in the center (Cowles Mfg)
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