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PolishX
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Posted - 06/27/2011 :  2:44:30 PM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just inherited it. My grandfather who was in the south pacific brought it back .
Sag #3444XXX From what I read its a May43-May 44 1st block production. BUT can someone tell me where to find the barrel stamping for date ?

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mjanway
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Posted - 06/27/2011 :  11:12:38 PM  Show Profile Send mjanway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Saginaw SG barrels were undated. Behind the front sight towards the receiver, should be manufacturer's stamp. If that is "Saginaw S.G. Div
General Motors", then it will be undated. Sounds legit.

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PolishX
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Posted - 06/28/2011 :  07:42:57 AM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks . thats what it says . several what i assume to be proof marks on the bayonet band , the mag release (initials) . a 10 stamped into the stock near the sling hole . I will post pics when I take my pride and joy with me home and get it in better light
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mjanway
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Posted - 06/28/2011 :  1:02:11 PM  Show Profile Send mjanway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All what you see are marks identifying the maker of that part and in most cases whom the part was made for. The IO near the sling cut is actually an OI and means that S.E. Overton of South Haven MI manufactured the stock for Inland. Just about every part is coded this way and actually mean something.
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tenthfla
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Posted - 08/24/2011 :  9:11:38 PM  Show Profile Send tenthfla a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Your receiver was made pretty close to late December 1943 and the barrel is likely original. Unless your grandfather served during a period a good while after WWII or, even less likely, swapped out parts later at home, he could not have brought the carbine home from the Pacific as all three parts you describe indicate a rebuild.

Does the stock have any marks on the left side besides what you already mentioned? Does it have an adjustable rear sight with a ramp? Is the bolt blued or parkerized?

Sorry to disappoint, but details sometimes get fuzzy on frequently retold stories. If your grandfather carried a carbine in the Pacific, you have a very nice representative piece that reminds you of him and his service. That makes it a big deal and worthy of your excitement.
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PolishX
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  02:46:59 AM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sorry guys ive been busy with estate stuff . Its an early bolt and raised handguard. it does have the adjustable sight with ramp and the underwood reconditioning stamp with the type 3 front band . (ive purchased a copy of the scott duff guide) . trying to figure out what the I.R. CO. on the rear sight ramp means .
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PolishX
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  02:49:50 AM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh one more thing . doesnt bother me at all that he got a rework. he most likely got it pre 68 and got it to shoot when he went to the farm in northern michigan but noone ever saw him shoot it. I did however shoot it and 100 yards its exactly where it should be for a carbine .. I like it alot . just need a stock mounted mag pouch and bayonet
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mjanway
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  1:14:41 PM  Show Profile Send mjanway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Stands for International Register Company of Chicago IL who made the sight. If it also has the numbers 7160060, it's post war rebuild part. I'm up to my ears in estate stuff too, takes awhile.
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J.R.M.2010
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Posted - 09/09/2011 :  2:12:37 PM  Show Profile Send J.R.M.2010 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some pics will tell the story, guy.

J.R.M.
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PolishX
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Posted - 09/11/2011 :  8:30:50 PM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
will be posting pics tomorrow. I looked at the rear sight its a stamped late war adjustable. Just marked IRC doesnt have the 7160060 markings though . again I will post pics tomorrow when i get home
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PolishX
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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  7:34:49 PM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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mjanway
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Posted - 10/21/2011 :  8:50:41 PM  Show Profile Send mjanway a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Got some of the left and right view of the whole carbine?

Thanks

Jack
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PolishX
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Posted - 04/16/2013 :  01:40:01 AM  Show Profile Send PolishX a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Edited by - jimb16 on 04/16/2013 6:51:27 PM
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stickhauler
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Posted - 04/21/2013 :  05:41:47 AM  Show Profile Send stickhauler a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PolishX

oh one more thing . doesnt bother me at all that he got a rework. he most likely got it pre 68 and got it to shoot when he went to the farm in northern michigan but noone ever saw him shoot it. I did however shoot it and 100 yards its exactly where it should be for a carbine .. I like it alot . just need a stock mounted mag pouch and bayonet




It's your choice, but to me, the stock mounted mag pouch detracts from the carbine. Plus, unless you take extra care to protect the stock from the pouch itself, it mars the surface of the stock.

Pretty much, I'd say the entire stock pouch deal was more for troops well behind the lines, who didn't usually wear web gear. Those using the carbine at the front would have had magazine pouches on their web gear belt. Getting a magazine when you really needed it from a belt mounted mag pouch would be a LOT easier than grabbing one off the stock of the carbine.

Maybe that's just me though, your mileage may vary.
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BEYU
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Posted - 04/21/2013 :  2:10:35 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote


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"...It's your choice, but to me, the stock mounted mag pouch detracts from the carbine. Plus, unless you take extra care to protect the stock from the pouch itself, it mars the surface of the stock."

I have a pouch mounted on my carbine, and I have to admit I'm not totally sold on the idea either. It does not seem as convenient as one might think it would be.

I only go to an indoor range, so it does seem to be a pretty handy arrangement, though. In the field, I can see where it might be better to have a couple pouches on a web belt.

As far as marking up the stock, I got around that by putting a couple of pieces of duct tape over the snap on the inside of the pouch to prevent scratching.

BEYU

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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