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Ironbeard
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Posted - 07/31/2018 :  7:30:25 PM  Show Profile Send Ironbeard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well did a stupid today. Took out my new-to-me Universal M-1 3rd Gen to the range and picked up a couple of boxes of Tula FMJ just to test the new magazines and such. Well about thirty rounds started having FTE (Fail To Eject) and stove piping then a stuck expended round in the chamber.

Immediately took it to the range Gunsmith and his first comment was
"Don't use lacquered rounds in your M1."

I'd never given it a second thought when I bought the ammo, as I'd never had a problem in any other of my military styled rifles. I know....I know...stupid of me. The Gunsmith said that he'd even had the steel Russian rounds break extractors and that I should stick strictly to brass only ammo.

So heads up to Newbies to the M1 Carbine world like me.....NO RUSKIE AMMO!!

Panic NOW....avoid the rush!

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BEYU
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Posted - 07/31/2018 :  8:54:48 PM  Show Profile Send BEYU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The problem with Russian ammo is well known here.

You will occasionally get arguments from those who say— the US military accepted steel cased ammo during part of WWII when there was a brass shortage.

They reason that steel cases should therefore be ok for the carbine. There have been some pretty hot disagreements from time to time on this site.

BUT — the US military noted the increased incidence of broken extractors and stopped using that kind of ammo.

The varnish coating on the steel cases is also a known problem in a hot carbine barrel.

BEYU

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cali201
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USA
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Posted - 08/01/2018 :  05:26:08 AM  Show Profile Send cali201 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the gen 3 universal is fragile enough with brass ammo let alone steel case stuff that is meant for commie guns that can handle the abuse. I would keep it as far away from my weapon as possible.
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Ironbeard
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Posted - 08/01/2018 :  7:18:02 PM  Show Profile Send Ironbeard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep....just heard from the gunsmith. The Tula ate the extractor!! Going with a stronger tempered after market unit but going to stay away from any of the Ruskie stuff from now on!

Panic NOW....avoid the rush!
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