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Ironbeard
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Posted - 07/31/2018 :  7:29:19 PM  Show Profile Send Ironbeard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well did a stupid today. Took out my new-to-me Universal M-1 3rd Gen to the range and picked up a couple of boxes of Tula FMJ just to test the new magazines and such. Well about thirty rounds started having FTE (Fail To Eject) and stove piping then a stuck expended round in the chamber.

Immediately took it to the range Gunsmith and his first comment was
"Don't use lacquered rounds in your M1."

I'd never given it a second thought when I bought the ammo, as I'd never had a problem in any other of my military styled rifles. I know....I know...stupid of me. The Gunsmith said that he'd even had the steel Russian rounds break extractors and that I should stick strictly to brass only ammo.

So heads up to Newbies to the M1 Carbine world like me.....NO RUSKIE AMMO!!

Panic NOW....avoid the rush!

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Tuna
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Posted - 08/01/2018 :  9:01:41 PM  Show Profile Send Tuna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A real good cleaning and you should be back on the range. Steel case Russian ammo is well know to create problems with carbines and it is best to avoid it. As you found out it can lead to jams and the ammo itself is very dirty when fired as it seems the Russians seem to use dirty powder to start with. If someone has an early carbine collector grade then do not even think of using steel cased ammo. Those extractors are getting very hard to find and very costly when you do find one.
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daboone
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2018 :  10:29:48 AM  Show Profile Send daboone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd never heard about either the lacquered or the steel case problems. Fortunately I haven't purchased any OTC ammo for the last 40 years. A l o n g time ago I picked up some 2000 LC cases thus with annealing I've never run out of brass.
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Ironbeard
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Posted - 08/03/2018 :  9:42:37 PM  Show Profile Send Ironbeard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah daboone.....Lacquered and Steel Case is totally bad JuJu!! After less than 50 rounds got a case stuck in the chamber and broke my extractor

Panic NOW....avoid the rush!

Edited by - Ironbeard on 08/03/2018 9:43:43 PM
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shadycon
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USA
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Posted - 08/04/2018 :  08:01:17 AM  Show Profile Send shadycon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The steel/lacquered cases even stick in my Ruger Blackhawk...............

M1's-R-FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
TSMG's-R-MORE-FUN!!!!!
ENJOY LIFE & HAVE FUN!!
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COSteve
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USA
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Posted - 08/07/2018 :  6:10:17 PM  Show Profile Send COSteve a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Friends don't let friends shoot cheap Commie ammo in their fine American or Western European arms. That junk ammo goes bang but is poorly made, inconsistent, and not very accurate. As shooting is also about hitting what you're aiming at, why use that junk?

Save it for the more crudely made Eastern block arms that were designed for it.

Steve

Remember, no matter where you go, there you are. - Confucius
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